Our Mess

Yes, I agree with you, it is SUPER WEIRD that we have a picture of Seth with a black eye, but… we were trying to get into shape and Seth wanted to take “before” pictures, so that is why we have this photo!


We do NOT support domestic violence in any way whatsoever, but we have gone through it and we understand the complexity of domestic violence both from the side of the victim and from the side of the perpetrator.

Listen to our episode Hide The Guns to learn more about what happened to us and what we did to get through it together.

If you or someone you know is being abused or is abusing others please reach out to a Licensed Mental Health Professional near you or contact Crisis Text Line and get the help that you need!

There are wonderful people in the world who are willing to walk beside you through these hard times, so don’t lose hope just get help!


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